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THE HYPOCRISY OF THE WOMEN'S MOVEMENT

Thanks, it’s good to have some support from readers (as well as criticism). Sorry I couldn’t get to everyone. I hope to be back next week - cheers Tony

Reaction to Governor Pailin’s vice-presidential nomination suggests that the women’s movement remains highly selective about the women it supports.

If Hilary Clinton put “18 million cracks in the glass ceiling”, only to be rebuffed by the Democratic Party establishment, maverick conservative John McCain smashed it by picking Sarah Pailin as running mate. Is the women’s movement satisfied? Not a bit. The usual advocates of women in public life have changed their tune worrying about whether Pailin could be both a mother and vice president. The double standard is appalling, especially as it’s being deployed by the feminist left against a woman. As Rudy Guiliani responded, no one asks whether Obama can be both a father and president.

Then there are the social liberals, normally supportive of sexual self-expression, sniffing about Pailin’s “unsuitable” family, especially her pregnant daughter. Regarding Bristol Pailin as a normal 17 year old rather than a “fallen woman” will be a test for the Christian lobby too.

Obama, if not his spokesmen, had the decency to acknowledge Pailin’s “compelling” personal story. She became mayor and then governor by beating establishment candidates. She’s exposed corruption by party colleagues. For two years, she’s run a state which is more than Obama or even McCain and Joe Biden have ever done. She may not know the name of the Polish president but seems to have the right stuff for high office. Pity the feminists who prefer a left-wing man to a conservative woman who’s beaten men on their own terms.

Tony,youare preaching to a group that have never heard of the word hypocricy. There hatred of the conservatives, of the USA, successful people, fox hunters etc overwhelms any form of introspection. How can you defend the Taliban and Belinda Neil in one breath? My case rests.

Rossco of Newcastle (Reply)
Thu 04 Sep 08 (01:57pm)

Tony, I actually think that it is her stance on Abortion that would be turning the feminists away. Most people don’t take kindly to governments telling people what they can and cant do with their own bodies.

Based on what I have seen of her quotes and positions on various issues, Palin is nothing more than George Bush in a skirt.

It appears that in order to get the far right Christian vote, McCain is hoping the dress will hide the fact that a vote for McCain puts the female version of Bush into the Vice President seat.

If the Obama camp can start to make the comparisons between Bush and Palin on Key Issues, then they can reinforce their argument that a vote for McCain is a vote for a 3rd Bush Term and that will be the end of the McCain Campaign.

Brett D of Central Coast (Reply)
Thu 04 Sep 08 (02:01pm)

Sorry Tony but I sniff a go at the female vote from the republicans.

You can have a go at feminist womens groups but it’s Mum and Dad America that vote governments in and out and have families with teenage girls.

I may be cynical but I think that these groups would see her favourably thus get the republicans over the line.

All I know is I’ll be glad when these elections are done and dusted.

David of Hornsby (Reply)
Thu 04 Sep 08 (02:35pm)
Tony Abbott

I’d be amazed if McCain didn’t have women’s votes in mind when he made his pick. There’s nothing wrong with that. He is a politician, after all, and he does want to win. The whole point of democracy is to force leaders to take the people seriously. On the evidence, there’s no way Palin is a token woman. She’s beaten the men at their own game and never aksed for special treatment because of her gender. Acknowledging the importance of women’s votes and picking the right woman to do that is a sign of McCain’s judgment and character.

Tony Abbott
Fri 05 Sep 08 (10:01am)

“Reaction to Governor Pailin’s vice-presidential nomination suggests that the women’s movement remains highly selective about the women it supports. “

WHAT???? So you expect the “womens movement” to blindly support Palin just because she is a woman???  You are so hypocritical

jimmy g (Reply)
Thu 04 Sep 08 (05:17pm)
Tony Abbott

No. I just expect the women’s movement to show some respect for a competent, successful woman who happens not to subscribe to feminist dogma. 

Tony Abbott
Fri 05 Sep 08 (10:46am)

I see not hypocrisy in supporting a good candidate (Clinton) and not supporting a terrible candidate (Palin). It’s like saying that I am a hypocrite beacuse I voted against you but for another man (Rudd). Strawman.

txjohn (Reply)
Thu 04 Sep 08 (07:18pm)
Tony Abbott

Ok, but it’s hard to credibly be a “women’s activist” if it’s only certain women that you support. The sisterhood doesn’t like being shown up as selective. For myself, I don’t support “women’s” causes. I support conservative causes and am thrilled to find such a gutsy, capable, optimistic, decent woman to show the world (again) that you can be a female politician without being stereotyped. 

Tony Abbott
Fri 05 Sep 08 (10:41am)

Tony, the big unknown about US politics lies in non-compulsory voting.
Having started off as a Gough man in 1969 (young, idealistic and naive), I have travelled the full circle and now advocate not only NCV but also a higher minimum voting age.
Your views please?

Ken Goodall (Reply)
Fri 05 Sep 08 (05:13am)
Tony Abbott

I reckon democracy works better if everyone votes. Sure, it’s a restriction on freedom but a bearable one, in my view, because it produces a better society. 

Tony Abbott
Fri 05 Sep 08 (10:34am)

You seem to be suggesting that women should support women merely on the basis that they are women. Why should the women’s movement be satisfied with a person many believe is not fit to lead? Why shouldn’t women condemn a neo-conservative evangelist who attacks the lifestyle choices of others and yet whose own family does not follow her own strict and regimented beliefs? Women are entitled to judge on merit, not on the fact that the person in question happens to be female.

I’ll tell you what is hypocritical. A Catholic making any comments on the status of women. Given the Church’s long history of contempt for women who exist merely as incubators, I’d love to hear Mr Abbott explain his faiths condemnation of women (dating from Eve) with beliefs of modern society. Given, Mr Abbott, you apparent support for women fulfilling senior political leadership roles, I take it that you will publically support calls for female Catholic priests and, indeed, a female Pope.

Redman of Canberra (Reply)
Fri 05 Sep 08 (08:17am)
Tony Abbott

I’m not suggesting that for a second. But Hillary Clinton, for one, was clearly pitching for the “women’s vote”. The real problem here is that Democrats hate being trumped in their strong suit.

Tony Abbott
Fri 05 Sep 08 (10:30am)

Tony, it seems to come as a surprise to you that women are thinking people, capable of making discerning decisions. I support womens rights but that doesn’t mean I support all women, regardless of thier viewpoint.  I simply support the right for women to have equal opportunities to men.  I find Palin’s standpoint to be archaic and divisive and an affront to caring and intelligent persons, regardless of their gender. Its the arrogance and stupidity of a person like McCain who thinks that he can filch the ‘womens vote’ simply by putting a person of the female gender on his ticket...that affronts a female voter such as me.

robbo of Byron Bay (Reply)
Fri 05 Sep 08 (08:37am)
Tony Abbott

Fair enough but please don’t say you’re a “women’s activist” rather than trying to enlist women to support the left.

Tony Abbott
Fri 05 Sep 08 (10:27am)

Liberals/ Republicans have more or less traded on Ronald Reagan’s line that “Government is not the solution, government is the problem” as a political argument for reducing taxes and services over the past quarter century. Except for abortion. Somehow, the Republicans and you Tony, cannot resist meddling into people’s lives on this one issue. It is incredible how this double standard applies and American’s think and hope it may influence the 2008 election. After 8 years of Bush, how could anyone want another 4 years of Republicans?

The Obama juggernaut is not without reason. Just because a good sort with old fashioned principles turns up doesn’t mean that hope will be again replaced by fear, climate change again denied, gun control forgotten and Obama’s genuine brilliance be denied. He is a once-in-a-generation leader, and you think being the equivalent of Tasmania’s premier for 2 years cuts it for experience! - as if to wedge out Obama...I’ll take Obama’s lack of experience, no vested interests, no entrenched favours, no bad habits, no excuses, no George Bush, all day, every day and twice on Sundays.

Jason Olbourne of Sydney (Reply)
Fri 05 Sep 08 (08:38am)
Tony Abbott

I’m not denying Obama’s brilliance as a speaker. Still, it takes more than fine words to run a country and I wonder what Obama would actually do if he became president. Sure, lots of people don’t like Bush and are unhappy about Iraq. But what is the alternative? Getting western troops out of Iraq will save westerm lives in the short term but it’s only good policy if it save Iraqi lives. Can Obama guarantee that? Is he even interested in that?

My hope for far fewer abortions is not driven by a desire to meddle in other people’s lives. It’s driven by a conviction that terminating a potential life is always a tragedy. Just how really compelling are the factors behind nearly 100,000 terminations a year in Australia? It would be a lot easier for women to cope if the rest of us were less judgmental and less hard hearted which is why the Palin family’s example is so throughly uplifting. 

Tony Abbott
Fri 05 Sep 08 (10:24am)

It’s the minority that shouts the loudest, Tony and quite frankly the majority are sick and tired of hearing them. It is appalling that minority groups are selective of whom and what they support. It seems conservatism is a “c” word in this so called enlightened age. It seems better to give people what they want and watch society go down the gurgler as established social norms such as family and morals deteriorate then to draw a line in the sand and say “no, we go no further”. I take my hat off to politicians who do draw a line, something I respected about the Howard government. It also seems interesting, though not surprising, that people can say what ever they like in the name of freedom of expression, so long as none of the minority groups are offended. When it comes to the beliefs and faith of the majority who cares? I just wish the conservative politicians would shout as loud as the liberal ones

Daniel of Sydney (Reply)
Fri 05 Sep 08 (09:31am)
Tony Abbott

Fair comment. Real conservative politicians don’t often shout because they instinctively know that the human condition is more complex than ideologues think. 

Tony Abbott
Fri 05 Sep 08 (10:13am)

Running a state? Need I remind you Mr Abbott that Alaska has a population barely more than Tasmania’s, lol.

But I think she has some cred. I think you may be nit-picking too much about what some in the far left have to say about her being a Mom and a President (I actually haven’t heard this criticism about her).

However, I think what irks people, not unlike when Ross Cameron was thrown out in 2004, is that she doesn’t practice what she preaches.

American’s have a legitimate right to ask why an anti-sex education campaigner (she believes in telling teens just to ‘say no’) should be a heart-beat away from becoming President, when she can’t even teach that message to her own daughter? Note, how I did not include the use of the ‘A’ word in this text

Joe of Primbee, NSW (Reply)
Fri 05 Sep 08 (09:48am)
Tony Abbott

You can want teenagers to abstain from sex without expecting them always to do so. The “abstinence is best” message doesn’t assume that teenagers will always be Virgin Mary pure. It just states an ideal. Good on Palin for subscribing to that ideal. And good on her for being so matter of fact about things turning out the way they have. Would it really have been better if Bristol had been put on the pill or rushed off to an abortion clinic? This is a very human story and the Palin family seem to have handled it in the best possible way. I hope I’d have the same magnanimity in similar circumstances.

Tony Abbott
Fri 05 Sep 08 (10:10am



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